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Alright this is a Vanitas and Ventus theory in one. We all know that Vanitas means vanity and mirror, right? So couldn't that mean that Ven and Vanitas are 2 halves of one whole? Or perhaps the bonding of two similar keyblades. Perhaps the burial or grave operation as other cultures have done such as the greeks putting a coin under the tongue of a dead person and the burning of the jedi. That leads to this explanation; the burial of a fallen keyblade master is turning them into keychains. We all saw Aqua hold out 3 keychains, correct so that that leads me to believe she can make key chains.
Vanitas might be the inverse kingdom key key chain and Ventus might be the Kingdom Key key chain.

Now how would this explain the connection between Sora and Ventus? Key chains are apart of the users heart, correct? So the transferring of memories might affect the user's heart. This would explain all those keyblades in Sunset Horizons. That would be the burial site. I know it isn't canon but the 3 of them picking up the 3 keyblades might be saying they're coming back to life to fight again

More theories: Storyline theory #1

First I'll explain it in simple form. Even has an interest in hearts; correct?
What I'm thinking is that Repliku wasn't the first of his creations. I'm thinking that Even possibly wanted to make a keyblade wielder of the 2 main elements. Darkness and light.

So he created Ven and Dark soldier. Before you say anything it does have some partial proof. Xion was a creation as well correct? She was absorbed by Roxas which was gave him the dual wielding ability. I'm thinking that creations of life can be absorbed by humans when they're at their weakest.
So Repliku being a Riku copy could also become a keyblade hero if he'd turned to both. Riku may have absorbed Repliku giving him the ability to wield two soul-eaters= 2 possible keyblades.

Anyway after DS may have turned against Master Xehanort. MX could've had him at his weak point like Xion so MX absorbed DS and that's how XH has both clothes and a guardian heartless. This also explains the non-canon MX splitting himself because the battle may take place towards the end.

Ven however was weakened by Aqua erasing but her being troubled by her lover asking her to erase him didn't erase him completely and kids being kids Sora comes by accidently absorbing him.

Even creating DS also shows how Repliku came to have the armor but it wasn't complete. Ven's keyblade wasn't complete because he isn't real

Unbirth theory
Unbirth theory
I take no credit for this theory but what if they're made when someone's memories are erased. If you think about it it makes sense. That was the reason Marluxia told Namine to ERASE Sora's memories...any comments?

That's about it and I bet one of the theory people are going to say this is just a bunch of crap put together because that's what this. It's just what I think.

Keyblade Wielder Castle theory

If you saw the TGS 09 trailer then you might remember this but the meeting place where Vanitas and MX were sitting. That room got me thinking. Is that place a castle? If so then it might be the organization's castle because even when Xehanort threw Ansem out of his castle and casted his body to darkness. Why didn't he stay at that castle. So that leads to me thinking that Xehanort/Xemnas regained his memory as either Terra, MX, or Vanitas and went in search of his old “home” which is the nobody castle.

any comments/thoughts?
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Mate, in your web browser, type in "KHinsider.com" and that should shed some light on a lot of the mysteries. Secondly, if I recall correctly, Marluxia told Namine to wipe Sora's memory because he wanted to use the Keyblade Master to take control of the Organization.

ShadowSephiroth, on Dec 22 2009, 12:54 AM, said:

I have a KHinsider account. The username is ruon. And the theroizers ojn KHI are rather stupid because they rely heavily on the interviews when they're all Coded. They don't rely on speculation. Because kHI dismissed the Riku having 2 keyblades explanation with no proof whatsoever. So can you find the flaws in these with interviews? Anyway when you erase someone's memories completely you shatter their heart thus turning them into a heartles. Was that his plan? I think not. And I already know that unbirths are made from negative emotion.

She wasn't doing that. She was replacing real memories with faux ones so that his heart would not shatter.

ShadowSephiroth, on Dec 22 2009, 01:38 PM, said:

Actually yeah it does. I'll find tyou the cutscene if I have to. Marluxia is right in front of them saying shatter sora's heart by erasing all of his memories. Then Donald and Goofy say they'll rebuild hence forth proving what I was saying

You are correct, sir. I forgot about that. However, it is towards the end of the game, when Marluxia had given up on his plan.

ShadowSephiroth, on Dec 22 2009, 07:56 PM, said:

Miss not sir. yes and that proves mine further. When all else fails destroy the whole plan. Leave nothing of it. So that way there would be nothing that could show him as a traitor other than Axel

Good work sir, I heartily congratulate you on your success. however, I have a qualm with an earlier statement by you.

they're stupid for relying on the interviews, and stupid for not relying on speculation?

you've got it backwards, sir. very much so indeed... or so common sense dictates.

Tokugawa_Ronin, on Dec 23 2009, 08:50 AM, said:

No, i was trying to say they're stupid for ONLY relying on interview instead of both because the only responses i got were

me- My theory
kHI member- No
me- Why not? Do you hvae any proof?
KHI member- We don't need proof


that was basically what the first post of my thread on KHI was. Let's take this to PM to avoid spamming if that's ok

Ummm, this isn't spam. it's discussion about what you posted.

and that didn't come off as what you meant. so that's why I posted what I did.

Tsukasa, on Dec 22 2009, 06:17 PM, said:

I'm not quite sure that that was the logic behind it. Remember, Saix sent Axel to eliminate the CO team because Saix wanted to make those members look like the traitors, when really Saix and Axel joined the Organization the intent of eventually usurping Xemnas.