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Vanitas's Identity Master Xehanort's Apprentice = ...?

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#1 Posted 27 October 2009 - 04:36 PM

Alright, so we've all seen the crazy acrobatic, incredibly powerful, dark Keyblade warrior that follows Master Xehanort around in Birth by Sleep. Dark helmet, black and red suit almost identical to Riku's Dark Form, etc.

Well who IS he, exactly? What's the secret behind the tinted glass?

I have my own theory for his identity, actually, and I'm pretty positive I'm almost spot-on with my reasoning.

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Apprentice Vanitas is the Xehanort we know and love.
The white-haired, tan-skinned, scheming bastard who is the driving force behind ALL evil in the Kingdom Hearts universe thus far.

Reasoning against Terra or Master Xehanort being Xehanort/Ansem/Xemnas:
- Terra's hair is close to Xehanort's style, but not the same. At least not similar enough for Master Xehanort to have stolen his body and turned his hair white, and have it be identical to Xehanort/Ansem.
- Terra's eyes turning yellow, while interesting, is WAY too obvious of a trick. It is so blatantly "TERRA IS XEHANORT LAWL" that this must be a red herring. (Come on, all of the clues about Xion that they dropped on us in the trailers for 358/2 Days pointed toward Xion being Kairi's second Nobody, not what she actually was)
- Master Xehanort is, for obvious reasons, WAY too obvious to be the Xehanort we know.

Reasoning for Vanitas being Xehanort:
- Why else would they hide his face? After all of this time of revealing characters, Vanitas's appearance is still completely covered. We don't even know what color his skin is, for goodness' sake. If he's really NOT a character that we've seen before, they would at least show him with a broken helmet, revealing at least some of his features by now.
- Assuming Vanitas is Xehanort... When Xehanort possesses Riku, he takes on his original outfit, with slight variations.
- When Xehanort becomes a Heartless, after he stole his master Ansem's name, his Heartless wears the outfit of his former master, Master Xehanort, possibly adding a bit of symbolism to his theft of his master's identity in this new state of power.
- Riku's Soul Eater and Way to the Dawn both display the blue monster eyes that are also featured on Vanitas's Keyblade. Interesting that Vanitas and Riku, formerly possessed by Xehanort, use similar weaponry.
- When Xehanort is discovered by Ansem the Wise, he remembers absolutely nothing but the name Xehanort. It is not stated that he remembers that his OWN name is Xehanort, just that he remembers the name. I think the name of his master would be pretty important, and he does seem to have a thing for stealing his masters' names.


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#2 Posted 27 October 2009 - 05:22 PM

Sounds reasonable enough. But I'm hoping it's going to be more of a surprise than that, something we'd never guess.


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#3 Posted 27 October 2009 - 05:29 PM

True, something totally unexpected would be cool as well. But from what we've seen, I think this is the best explanation so far, and I think it sounds like a fairly solid theory. I like it better than either Master Xehanort or Terra being the Xehanort we know.
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#4 Posted 27 October 2009 - 09:46 PM

I demand it be added to the Sacred List. XD

But seriously, Tristan...I think you've got a solid theory there, it really makes a lot of sense to me.

and as Becky said, something unexpected (like it turning out to be some random character like...Riku from the future or something[not literally that, that would be horrible]) would be nice too.

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#5 Posted 27 October 2009 - 10:20 PM

Theres not to much fact in the theory. Theres also not much known about the past yet. It has a good thought, it is very possible i suppose. It would explain how Xehanort become the evil he is in the present.
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#6 Posted 27 October 2009 - 10:30 PM

Well, of course the theory itself isn't fact; it's all speculation. However, this theory puts together known facts pretty solidly, disregarding the way-too-obvious solutions of Terra or Master Xehanort being the Xehanort we know. At least, Strax and I think so.
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#7 Posted 28 October 2009 - 12:36 PM

I, for one, completely support the idea of the red herring concerning Terra, also...however I would like to know why his eyes changed color then.

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#8 Posted 28 October 2009 - 01:59 PM

Are you suggesting his eyes changing colors make him Xehanort? It can mean anything, its not like Xehanorts eyes changed colors or something. Wait. Now that i think of dont they have the same eye color 0_o
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#9 Posted 28 October 2009 - 03:07 PM

A lot of people make the (reasonable) assumption that when Terra's eyes glow orangish/yellow in the one trailer, it's hinting that he is the one who becomes the Xehanort we know. Most of us here are actually saying the opposite, though, that it's too obvious and therefore probably a red herring.
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#10 Posted 28 October 2009 - 03:44 PM

Do terra's eye color change to that of Xehanorts? I dont remember right
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#11 Posted 28 October 2009 - 04:53 PM

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Do terra's eye color change to that of Xehanorts? I dont remember right


it was at the end of the KH2 FM+ Secret movie
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#12 Posted 28 October 2009 - 05:01 PM

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#13 Posted 28 October 2009 - 05:09 PM

yeah, Rhino, I was actually suggesting the opposite, like becky said... that the eyes changing color is just a red herring.

I love red herrings...good eats.

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